A quaint yet hard hitting book basically explaining the 'complex' male specie's approach to dating and women.

If you are constantly waiting next to the phone waiting for 'him' to call - only waking up a few hours later with messed up hair , getting dressed up to the nines 'incase' he 'drops by' or constantly wondering "Why doesn't he just stick to what we planned?" - YOU need this book!

Wonder no more ladies, read all about them

Very Aptly titled : "He's Just Not That Into You" "The No Excuses Truth to Understanding Guys" by Greg Behrendt & Liz Tuccillo

Most of my female friends were pretty much when reading it.
(And so were the male one's but for totally different reasons alltogether)

Guys if you aren't gutsy enough to tell a lady that "You Just Aren't That Into Her" I'm thinking that after this book crosses the world you'll be pretty much owned

This post has been edited by hiccupsie: Jul 25 2005, 09:30 AM

Oh reeeaaaalllly?



Might give this one a miss!

Why didi your guy friends when reading it? The blatant lies? Jokes

I think all women could do with this kind of book - single or not.

Too True Toasted !

Every so often some literary champions raise a flag to the cause of understanding men and why they do what they do, all in a vain and ultimately futile quest to hide their own very real shortcomings.

Ladies, sorry to say it, but if you're dating the kind of man that doesn't call when he's supposed to or doesn't stick to what you planned and most especially doesn't have the guts to tell you directly how he feels, then terribly sorry, but jokes on you. You can't blame men in general just cause 'you' decided to start dating an asshole.

If women went out with guys that didn't hurt them, perhaps they wouldn't bitch about being hurt all the time no?

Just a snippet for thought:

Well, I personally don't take these books seriously, and I think they're a good laugh.

The things I hear from men, about how they think, or why they act a certain way really intrigues me, and actually makes me laugh.

I never really knew it was such a serious matter.

Ninja Mo - I completely agree with you.

None of these books should ever be seen as definitive deciding factors as to how you judge or handle relationships (and men )...

BUT This specific book Really does contain some very 'enlightening' information about said subjects and will have many a lady going "Aaaah Now I get it"

It was written for women who don't necesarilly have the strength, insight or self confidence to realise when they are being 'taken for a ride' so to speak.

I think it's great, it's light hearted, humorous but also very honest and down to the point.

Read it Ninja Mo

The authors Greg Behrendt and Liz Tuccillo happen to have been producers on the oh so famous Sex and The City Show (of which I was not a fan just btw)

Let's face it... We can no longer depend on society's 'moral obligation' in order to ensure that we aren't played, used or even abused BUT we can learn to accept all the help we can get in 'educating' ourselves, and if that help happens to be in the form of a book, then so be it.

Once again Ninja Mo makes an awesomely insightful post. I would say there is *some* benefit in these books, in terms of someone doing the research and putting down in words about men what we "think" we understand our gender from locker-room talk.

We often take for granted that women understand our point of view, in the same way that women take for granted that we understand theirs.

Two examples:

A woman will immediately assume we are being assholes when we don't buy them flowers on they day they thought it might be nice that we did, but in reality, we just didn't think of it at the exact time, but we still care a great deal about them.

The same happens with us. We get irritated when we are trying to watch something on TV and our lady wants to talk about curtains. She doesn't understand that at that we want to listen to what is being said at that moment cos chances are we wont hear it again, and we can talk about curtains anytime after that.

Men and women definitely do approach communication in a vastly different way, and if a book can shed some light on how those approaches differ, its a better base on which to approach each other on an individual basis.

EDIT:
btw, those "The Rules" books that say "Never call a man between 4pm and 8pm, and never until 3 days, 15 hours, 12 minutes and 5 seconds after a date" are pure rubbish.

This post has been edited by StanDarsh: Jul 27 2005, 12:42 AM

Am i the only one who doesn't take it so seriously?

Although they are "insightful" posts, I feel like we don't always have to be so serious about life and relationships.

Surely, the majority of your time spent in relationships should be spent enjoying it, and having fun.



Just because we read a book like that, doesn't mean we need "The Answer" to men. I would never date a guy that did that to me, but I would still read the book. I doubt the book was written soooo seriously, so no one should take it too seriously.

Afterall, it would be kind of impossible to EVER understand men.

In an attemp to simplify I'll illustrate as follows:

I would never even acccept a call from a man who stood me up Once, I wouldn't stay engaged to a partner for 12 years desperately wanting to get married for whichever reasons whilst he keeps making excuses, I wouldn't get involved with a married man or have 'break up sex' with an ex.

HOWEVER there are countless females out there who not only Would do all that, they ARE living it - and they are miserable now even I at times sit back and go "but honey if you allow him to treat you like that, don't cry to me" But it's not always that easy... These guys keep them 'dangling' with some or other promises or might even really love them and want to be with these females Yet they themselves lead issue riddled lifes and are unsure about what to do themselves. OR maybe they simply don't have the heart to tell the lady 'I'm sorry but I'm just not interested in you in any romantic way' I feel for guys like that but then don't those poor ladies living in hope deserve to Know? Or then at least know which clues to look out for?

Gentlemen if you really are That, this book shouldn't 'offend' you, afterall aren't we all tired of hearing that 'the bad guy always gets the girl'

And maybe give it a read before you start judging?

kthx I go sleep now

This post has been edited by hiccupsie: Jul 27 2005, 02:30 AM

Smallest book in the world: "Understanding a woman" so leave us be we are direct and if we didn't call you in 3 hours its becausewere enticed with a game of GTA, and smacking CGI ppl with baseball bats is what we do

Ninja Mo: Amen.
And welcome back to the forums, its been empty with you missing

Warpath: I wish we could put that into a context that women would undertstand. No one seems to. Toasted: you are different because you like games

^^At least the guys would understand, maybe she can look it up in her book and let me know the full explanation of why I said what I did and the emotions I was feeling at the time......... bah

I'll tell you.... I said it because it was the first thing to come into my mind
Emotion felt: Stomache hungry and it's almost lunchtime.
Full explanation: huh, lets type first thing in head..... no the other head rob

*dans* still missing out on a good read

whichever though

Note - The post was aimed at our single LADIES

/me hides

Yes it was, but it is regarding the other group... the group that makes up the majority of this forum (for now). So you should have (and am sure you did) realised that we (men) would have posted a lot here in all shapes, sizes, and formats, as well as comic levels.

Now to get on Topic.... I think that these books have some truth to them, but as toasted said are written with some tongue in cheek. also as hiccupsie said, I think this kind of book will help the lady who has no self confidence etc...

One thing I have never understood is this. Lady is being beaten up by her man. She stays with him and then says she couldn't leave? Why not? Heck if I was a lady I would be out of there the first time the dude hit me. I would not go home after work. If I was a house wife, I would leave him when he went to work. There is always a way out if the man is beating the lady. Heck, if my was beating me I would be out of there in an instant? Anyone able to explain this to me?